The Diary Of A CEO

CIA Whistleblower: They Can See All Your Messages! I Was Under Surveillance In Pakistan!

with John Kiriakou
19 Jan 2026 18 min read 2h 5m

The CIA has vast surveillance capabilities including remote control of smart devices and cars, as revealed in the Vault 7 leaks—yet Kiriakou argues the real threat isn't external spying but the agency's internal ethical failures, from torture programs to coordinated influence campaigns with Hollywood and podcasters. His career trajectory from accomplished spy to principled whistleblower reveals how institutional pressure to repeat falsehoods, combined with sociopathic organizational incentives, can corrupt intelligence work.

John Kiriakou
“Billions of dollars are spent spying on Americans, whether it's NSA or CIA or the FBI. And to make matters worse, we know that the CIA can take control remotely of a car's computer system in order to crash the car, take it off a bridge, or take control of your smart TV and turn a speaker into a microphone, even though the TV is off and broadcast back to the CIA.”
Opening statement about the extent of government surveillance capabilities
John Kiriakou
“I spent 15 years in the CIA. I love this country, but one of the most important things in my life is the issue of ethics, which is why I blew the whistle on the CIA's torture program. Because my superiors kept repeating that torture worked, but besides being illegal, immoral, unethical, it just wasn't true.”
Explaining his motivation for becoming a whistleblower
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John Kiriakou
“I would let them send me to prison again because it was the right thing to do. I mean, we know that they were experimenting on American citizens and spreading diseases in American cities.”
On his willingness to face consequences for exposing government abuses
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John Kiriakou
“95% of the people who agree to become spies for us do it for the money. Right? It's it's a simple cash transaction. You give me money, I'll give you secrets. 95%. The rest was love and family, um, ideology, revenge, and excitement.”
Discussing what motivates people to betray their countries and become assets
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John Kiriakou
“The CIA actively seeks to hire people who have what they call sociopathic tendencies. Not sociopaths. Sociopaths have no conscience. They'll just blow right through a polygraph exam, but they're impossible to corral. They're impossible to, you know, keep under rain. Uh, and it's because they're not able, their brains won't allow them to feel regret or remorse.”
Explaining the psychological profile the CIA deliberately recruits
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John Kiriakou is a former CIA officer who spent 15 years in the agency, rising to chief of counterterrorism operations in Pakistan after 9/11. He became a prominent whistleblower after publicly exposing the CIA's torture program, for which he was imprisoned. Now a privacy advocate and entrepreneur, he speaks extensively about government surveillance capabilities and ethical issues within intelligence agencies.
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Surveillance is already ubiquitous and weaponized The Vault 7 leaks confirmed the CIA possesses the technical capability to remotely control cars, smart TVs, and messaging apps. This isn't theoretical—these tools exist and are deployed. For product builders in privacy/security, this validates the market need for end-to-end encryption and hardware-level privacy controls, as centralized platforms are inherently compromisable.
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Institutional incentives corrupt truth-telling Kiriakou's experience shows how organizations develop cultures where falsehoods become repeated fact—the torture program was ineffective but leadership kept claiming it worked. Tech leaders should audit internal communication patterns for this dynamic: when dissenting information gets filtered out by hierarchy, organizations make catastrophic strategic errors.
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Motivation is rarely what you think it is While 95% of intelligence assets are motivated by money, Kiriakou notes business talent often leaves lucrative positions for meaning and hero narratives. For founders: compensation alone doesn't retain or recruit great people. Mission clarity and meaningful autonomy often outweigh salary, especially in competitive talent markets.