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Mick Jagger

with Mick Jagger
13 Jul 2026 4 min read 33m

Mick Jagger, at over 60 years in the game, is still resolutely anti-nostalgic — he explicitly told producer Andrew Watt not to reference Jumping Jack Flash when making Foreign Tongues, and he sees singing as character acting, switching personas between 'Sympathy for the Devil' and a ballad mid-set. The hostile media environment of 1964 America, where the Stones were treated as freaks outside New York and LA, changed dramatically within just two or three years — a speed of cultural shift Jagger finds hard to comprehend in retrospect.

Mick Jagger
“the police would come out and there would be like 14-y old girls and they bang them on the heads with their nightsticks. That was their solution and it's like huh”
Jagger describing the chaos of early Stones concerts on the US West Coast, where local police had no experience managing concert audiences.
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Mick Jagger
“There was one track I think Mr. charm. And at the end of it, he said, "Well, it could be a bit more like Jumping Jack Flash at the end." I said, "No, I just not anything like that, and I don't want you to refer to it."”
Jagger explaining his instruction to producer Andrew Watt to avoid referencing the Stones' own back catalogue when making Foreign Tongues.
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Mick Jagger
“I think in attitudes though, you know, it's like it's acting really cuz you're you're taking on the character of the of the song, you know, and so you so you're when you do a love song, say like Back in Your Life or the Jilted Lover, you're playing the jolted lover.”
Jagger responding to Conan's observation about the distinctive vocal attitude on tracks like Mr. Charm and Strange Game.
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Mick Jagger
“John kept saying where's Elvis? Where's Elvis? Where's Elvis? That's all the only person he wanted to meet. Then they met Elvis uh and in Bair at his house and John walked out and said, "Where's Elvis?" Because that was not the guy he wanted to meet.”
Jagger recounting John Lennon's famous disappointment after finally meeting Elvis, which led Jagger to deliberately avoid meeting his own hero.
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Mick Jagger
“we're not going to hang around. We're not going to wait. We're not going to play them all day. We're going to do them for a couple of hours and we'll move on to the next one.”
Jagger describing the fast, forward-momentum recording philosophy used for both Hackney Diamonds and Foreign Tongues.
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Mick Jagger is the frontman and lead singer of The Rolling Stones, one of the most successful and enduring rock bands in history. With a career spanning over six decades, Jagger is widely regarded as one of the greatest live performers of all time, known for his extraordinary stage presence and vocal attitude. In 2026, The Rolling Stones released their new album Foreign Tongues, recorded quickly and with a forward-looking ethos. Jagger also performs the theme song 'Strange Game' for the Apple TV+ series Slow Horses.
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Refuse nostalgia even with 60-year catalogue Jagger explicitly banned producer references to the Stones' own classics like Jumping Jack Flash during Foreign Tongues sessions. For any creator or brand with deep legacy, this is a deliberate strategic choice: the back catalogue is an anchor if you let it set the creative brief. Constraint-setting at the start of a project defines what's possible at the end.
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Never mock an act you haven't seen peak yet Conan describes a deliberate rule he applied throughout his late-night career: never let writers mock an unfamiliar or strange-looking new act, because the footage ages catastrophically if they become iconic. He cites No Doubt and Green Day's first TV appearances as examples. For anyone in media, criticism, or talent assessment, this is a cheap heuristic with asymmetric downside.
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Protect your mental image of heroes — don't meet them Jagger never met Elvis, on the explicit advice of John Lennon, who had been disillusioned by the encounter. Jagger says he wanted to keep 'my version of Elvis' intact. This is a broader principle about parasocial ideals: the version of someone that shaped your work is often more useful to preserve than the reality. Lennon's warning, passed person-to-person, shaped Jagger's behaviour for decades.